Malvinas - Argentine UN Discussion (Warning Adult Language)

An education video about Argentine psychosis over the Falkland Islands which they claim to administer as the imaginary Malvinas Islands. — at UN New York.

Argentina airs TV drama series about the Falklands war - video

It doesn't matter how many films they make about the Falklands War, the end is always the same.

Argentina’s farewell to Margaret Thatcher

On 11 April 2013, we were informed that Margaret Thatcher had passed away at the age of 87. In the city of Buenos Aires, my new home of one month, the news wasn’t greeted by carnivals, street parties or funfair. On the other hand, it certainly did not go unnoticed. It is true that for many, she continues to symbolize the loss of the Falkland Islands, 649 Argentine soldiers and a sense of national pride. Some people, especially those who have direct links to a Falklands veteran, viewed her as a tyrannical dictator akin to the likes of Stalin or Hitler. To others she was cast the part of a "baddie" in a story which sees Argentina the victims against an intransigent tyrant. In both cases her death was accompanied by a strong to mild sense of justice. Young people especially, who seem more politically engaged here than in the UK, often participating in political protests in the capital city, had little or no problem broadcasting this point of view.

In the days following her death, social media networks such as Facebook and Twitter were hosts to a handful of barely censored results, such as "Good Riddance!", which explicitly conveyed the feeling that  the "Iron Lady" will not be missed in this part of the world. To add to matters, her passing closely followed the Malvinas War Memorial Day on 2 April on which Argentines gathered to remember the veterans of the war as well as the determination of civilians who had offered time and resources to further the war effort. For some, the Memorial Day, celebrated only three weeks ago, heightened emotion surrounding Thatcher’s death and the desire to see the Falklands restored to Argentina.

On the other hand, there are many Argentines who believe that the demise of the junta military dictatorship, which Thatcher opposed, led to the first signs of democracy in Argentina. In 1983 the junta military dictatorship commanded by General Galtieri, surrendered power a year after war ended. They seem grateful to Thatcher for her courage in deploying the British Army to face General Galtieri, who was removed from power within days of the start of the war. It is safe to say that I have not encountered many people who harbour a deep-seated hatred towards her or expressed unashamed joy at the news. Even on the radio stations no more than a few moderate, predictable comments were made about her character and a questionable song or two played in her "honour" including "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead". Over the following days it became apparent that, to the man in the street, Margaret Thatcher herself did not pose the problem but rather the wrongful ownership of the Falklands to which she is inextricably linked. As such, reactions to her death quickly turned from the personal to the political. "Las Malvinas son Argentinas" (The Falklands belong to Argentina) was the sentiment that was renewed daily - one which the government began to propagate anew.Read more HERE

I doubt if she was hated as much in Argentina as she was by a significant proportion of the British public who had sick street parties to `celebrate` her death. She did the Argentinians a favour and helped restore a form of democracy. I still remember being shocked when I went back to the Falklands in 2007, at the Union Jack club in London, lady Thatcher arrived, I was at the rear of the room, as I couldn't be bothered with the scramble to shake her hand, one over keen veteran had his arm pushed up his back by her over reacting security guards, a small group of Scots Guards near me, shouted insults at her, I couldn't believe my ears, but they were Scots and its well known how much they hate Thatcher and the Tories, not to mention all of the English race. It was notable that the IRA didn't bomb Scotland during the height of the troubles.

WERE ARGENTINE CONSCRIPTS TORTURED IN THE FALKLANDS WAR?

Under the presidency of Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, the allegation that Argentine army officers and NCOs abused and killed their own troops in the Falklands War has repeatedly made the headlines of several newspapers. "Our own officers were our greatest enemies" , says Ernesto Alonso, the president of CECIM, a left-wing veterans group founded by Rodolfo Carrizo and other conscripts of the 7th Regiment. "They supplied themselves with whiskey from the pubs, but they weren't prepared for war. "They disappeared when things got serious." (Argentina's Falklands War Veterans. 'Cannon Fodder in a War We Couldn't Win'. By Jens Glüsing, Spiegel.de, 4 March 2007)

But the former officers, including British historian Jon Cooksey, maintain that the conscripts were helped to make themselves as comfortable as possible under the circumstances and that their officers and NCOs fought well and tried hard to bolster morale. Major Carlos Eduardo Carrizo-Salvadores, second-in-command of the 7th Infantry Regiment, would later explain that he did his best to arrange some measure of comfort for his men on Mount Longdon: "We took good care of the personnel. We did what we could do to set an example. Captain Eduardo Lopez [the company commander] was there with the platoons, with news-updates and nougat bars. The soldiers had everything you can imagine in their kitbags, including thermos flasks and transistor radios. Some of the soldiers heard that the British had disembarked at San Carlos and captured Goose Green by tuning radios on to the BBC. In the mornings the soldiers had a mug of the green Guarani herb 'mate' which contains around the same amount of caffein as a cup of coffee; it is stimulating and helps register a feeling of fullness. Meals were served in the open and consumed in mugs. I remember that mutton and pasta figured largely on the menu. There was a strict ration of one ratpack per man per week, eaten slowly to make it last." (Mount Longdon: The Argentinian Story, By David Aldea for britains-smallwars.com) Major Oscar Ramón Jaimet, the Operations Officer of the 6th Infantry Regiment would later say that the platoon commanders in his company shared the same wartime privations of the ordinary conscripts:
"Over there, everyone took the same risks, shared the same privations and tasks, suffered from the cold and shared the same foxholes that would fill with water. There has been a tendency to create differences - or make us believe - in the experiences of the officers, NCOs and privates. My platoon commanders (second lieutenants Aldo Franco, Augusto La Madrid, Guillermo Robredo and Guillermo Corbella) would sleep alongside the privates. I slept among the privates in our position." (Malvinas: Contrahistoria, Héctor Rubén Simeoni, p. 84, Editorial Inédita, 1984) Under the orders of Brigadier-General Mario Benjamin Menéndez, the Argentine military governor at the time, the army engineers (under Colonel Manuel Dorrego) in Port Stanley constructed field showers for the troops that allowed the frontline units before the British landings to send companies into town on a rotating basis to get a hot shower and mend their clothes. (See Malvinas: A Sangre y Fuego, By Nicolás Kasanzew, page 35, Editorial Abril, 1982) Marcelo Alberto Llambías Pravaz, a former platoon commander in the 4th Infantry Regiment in a television interview with Argentina's Channel 23 in December 2011, recalled taking his platoon of conscripts in mid-April 1982 to Port Stanley to allow his men to have a hot shower and shave. On 19 May 1982 a conscript serving with the 12th Infantry Regiment at Goose Green, Secundino Riquelme, reportedly died of starvation. The commanding officer of the 12th Regiment, Lieutenant-Colonel Italo Angel Piaggi however, maintains in his book about the war that private Riquelme died of a pre-existing heart condition. (Ganso Verde, Italo Angel Piaggi, p. 82, Editorial Sudamericana, 1986)
Second Lieutenant Gustavo Malacalza of the 12th Regiment is accused of having staked three conscripts at Goose Green, for having abandoned their positions to go looking for food and revealing their positions with gunfire. "We said it was going to be us next", said Private Mario Oscar Nuñez recalling the death of conscript Riquelme. Soon after the British landings, he and two other conscripts took the decision to kill a sheep. The three men were skinning the sheep when they were discovered by Second Lieutenant Malacalza, who was accompanied by fellow conscripts of A Company, 12th Regiment and given a beating. "They started kicking and stamping on us. Finally came the staking." (Falklands conscripts recall torture and death at hands of officers." The Times. 18 June 2009) Not all the conscripts of the 12th Regiment experienced field punishments and some even came forward to praise Second Lieutenant Ernesto Orlando Peluffo of the 12th Regiment, who would break and share his loaf of bread with the conscripts. (Diario Momarandu, 25 ANIVERSARIO DE MALVINAS, By Armando Godoy, 02/04/2007) Read More HERE

It sadly wouldn't surprise me if they were tortured, from what I saw of the Argentine conscripts they did not want to be there, some were even told they were just going on an exercise. If these allegations are true then it's not to late to bring these Argentine officers to trial.

Falklands referendum: The view from the island

"We hope, by voting overwhelmingly in favour of remaining British, the rest of the world will understand and support our right to self-determination."To say the Falklands War left a deep impression on John Fowler is perhaps an understatement.He witnessed the death of three women who were sheltering in his house during a botched British naval bombardment that was meant to help liberate his fellow islanders.Yet the 68-year-old deputy editor of the Penguin News, the territory’s main newspaper, is resolute about the islands remaining British."We Falkland Islanders know who we are and the kind of future we want - and it is definitely not as an Argentine colony,” he says defiantly, on the eve of this weekend’s historic first sovereignty referendum.
"We hope, by voting overwhelmingly in favour of remaining British, the rest of the world will understand and support our right to self-determination. The vote comes at a time when tensions between the UK and Argentina are becoming ever more heated.Since last year’s 30th anniversary of the 1982 war, Argentine protesters have repeatedly taken to the streets to demand the "return" of Las Malvinas – their name for the Falklands.Read More HERE

It wont matter to the Argentinians that it is inevitable that the Falkland Islanders will vote in favour of remaining a British territory but they simply have to respect the wishes of the Islanders, surely they are the ones that matter here. The Argentine s wont respect their wishes, but they can do nothing about it apart from frequent Nationalistic rhetoric, especially when the Country cant pay its debts and just shouts `Malvinas` louder. The fact is they are in a much worse position militarily to retake the Islands by force than they were in 1982, when the British Government gave the wrong impression about its hold on the Islands. They know that the UK will go to War to defend them and they cannot win any such War, they can keep on shouting Malvinas but it will forever be known as the Falklands.

WHAT ARGENTINA WILL LOOK LIKE IF THEY INVADE THE FALKLANDS

THE FALKLANDS ARE 100% BRITISH LEAVE ALONE OR PAY THE COST.

A PRESENT TO ARGENTINA FROM THE UK

NEXT TIME BUENOS AIRES GETS IT.

UK considered allowing Argentina Falklands naval base two weeks before war

The Foreign Office considered the possibility of allowing Argentina a naval base on the Falkland Islands just two weeks before the 1982 invasion, newly declassified documents disclose.They show how David Joy, of the British Embassy in Buenos Aires, contacted his Chilean counterpart Raul Schmidt to discuss tensions with Argentina before filing a restricted memorandum on March 5 1982.Chile and Argentina had long been in dispute over the possession of Picton, Lennox and Nueva islands in the Beagle Channel at the southern tip of South America and had come to the brink of war in 1978.
According to the documents, as revealed by BBC World's Spanish language service, Mr Schmidt told Mr Joy that Argentina's sovereignty disputes with Chile and Britain both stemmed from the country's desire to have a naval base further south.
"The Schmidt thesis is based essentially on the Argentine Navy's need of a strategic port further south than its current and most secure port, Puerto Belgrano, (south of the province of Buenos Aires)," one document states."The obvious option Ushuaia was not satisfactory from a security point of view because it is under constant Chilean surveillance.Read More HERE



Well I think the Foreign Office and David Joy at the time has some responsibility for the 1982 War by encouraging the Argentine Junta in this irresponsible way, its like offering the IRA an office in Aldershot barracks during the height of the terrorist threat on mainland UK.

FALKLANDS WAR 2 ?

DEAR ARGENTINA YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME , DON'T HUMILIATE YOURSELF AGAIN.

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Why Should Britain negotiate with Argentinian hypocrites?

PAY THE MONEY BACK YOU HYPOCRITES

Falkland Islands Will Be Argentine Territory In 20 Years, Says Foreign Secretary Hector Timerman

The Falkland Islands will be Argentine sovereign territory within 20 years, according to the country’s foreign minister.Speaking during a visit to London, Hector Timerman, who last week refused a meeting with his British counterpart William Hague over the propsed inclusion of the Port Stanley government in discussions over the islands, insisted that Buenos Aires had no intention of finding a military solution to the dispute.Read More HERE

Mr Titerman sorry Timerman is an extremely deluded man and needs to seek medical help very soon, the day the Falkland Islands become Argentinian I will become a GAY Liverpool FC fan.

Argentina pulls out of Falklands talks

A diplomatic dispute has erupted over the Falkland Islands after the Argentine foreign minister pulled out of talks with William Hague because the UK Government insisted that islanders should be able to take part.Hector Timerman has refused to meet representatives of the Falkland Islands government, which Argentina does not recognise as legitimate. The islanders were expected to tell Mr Timerman that Buenos Aires should respect islanders' rights and leave them in peace. Mr Timerman had initially asked for a one-to-one meeting with Mr Hague. In words bound to raise tensions between the UK and Argentina over the issue Mr Timerman said he was sorry that Mr Hague "can't meet without the supervision of the colonists from the Malvinas". He said that the United Nations regards the dispute over the islands which Argentina knows as the Malvinas as a bilateral issue between Buenos Aires and London.Read More HERE

Oh the arrogance of Hector Timerman, he doesn't think that the population of the Falklands for hundreds of years should be part of any talks, we all know why Hector spat his dummy out because he knows full well that the Islanders will unanimously vote to remain British. So Hector you have pulled out of talks like your military pulled out of fighting in 1982.

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Cristina Kirchner's using Malvinas to deflect domestic problems

Well it seems that the Falkland Islands are back in the news once again and we have had previously secret papers released under the 30 year rule which seemed to reveal that old Ronnie was not such an Ally as we all thought and threatened to tell Argentina British troops were landing on South Georgia no doubt he would  have been under pressure from some quarters of congress and didn't want the Argentines turning to the Soviets at the height of the cold War. Remember the Americans did give us sidewinder missiles for our Harriers which were far superior to anything the Argies had and ensured we won the air battle even though we had a much smaller air force. Also we have Cristina Fernández de Kirchner's letter to David Cameron  claiming the Islands for Argentina. She can send as many letters as she wants but that wont change the fact that the Falkland Islands are British in some ways more British than the UK. It is no coincidence that Kirchner's popularity is at an all time low and she hopes to deflect domestic woes by shouting "Malvinas" as loud as she can, she is cashing in on the fact that for the first time in many years Argentine veterans of the Malvinas War in 1982 are now highly respected  by the Argentine public, this does not help the over 500 suicides that have sadly occurred. I am just glad that we did not have a Labour Government in power in 82 or the Argentine flag may have been flying over the Falklands for the last 30 years. In terms of the actual fighting a professional army should have the upper hand over a conscript counterpart and this was to be the case in 82. The Argentines did nothing to endear themselves to the Islanders by vandalizing their homes and using baths sinks and the floor as toilets. I can vouch for this as I and many of my fellow soldiers became very ill after having to clean up human faeces which resulted in us contracting dysentery  and having to be evacuated to the ferry St Edmund. I have also heard that in places like Goose Green about the appalling conditions that the locals were kept and men woman and children were threatened to be shot by some Fascist Argentine officers. They scattered land mines  around like confetti at a wedding and even pulled the pins from grenades and left them under cups as booby traps that a child could easily have picked up. They certainly did not behave like professional soldiers because they were not. The Islanders will never forgive them in a million years but they do want to live in peace with their Argentine neighbors as is their right to self determination.   

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US Renews Argentina Support

Calling England Blog writes

On 7th June, the US was a signatory to the OAS declaration on the Falklands Islands, or, as the Obama administration prefers to call them, the Malvinas. So much for a UK/US relationship which we're told is not only "special" but"essential". Obama and his wife were only too happy to avail themselves of the lavish British hospitality shown to them on their recent State visit. Members of Parliament & journos fawned over him in an embarrassing spectacle after his speech in Westminster Hall - an honour given to few world leaders - each wanting to 'touch the hem of his garment'. Read More HERE

I wouldn’t expect anything else from Obama he hates the British and if he could would willing fight against us with the Argentineans. Lets hope for the sake of the Falklands  and America and us all he is a one term President.