Sunday 24 June 2007

Why the MOD is not fit for purpose.


A BURLY Army sergeant is having a £30,000 sex change — paid for by the Ministry of Defence.
Rugby-playing former commando David Penny, 40, has changed his name to Deborah and wears false boobs under his uniform.
Off duty, the Royal Green Jackets bomb disposal unit veteran is allowed to totter around the mess in stilettos, a skirt and tight-fitting tops as he awaits his op.
And we can reveal his comrades are outraged — not so much by Penny's sex swap, but by the fact the ARMY is shelling out for it Read It Here

(RG) All I can say is thank fuck I’m not in this so called army today what a laughing stock we are becoming. Aside from that think of the body armour and other essential equipment the lads in Iraq could have used with the £30,000. In my opinion if David Penny wants his cock cutting off, then do it himself it’s a waste of tax payers money, or send him to Iraq I’m sure there is an Iraqui militant ready to do it for nothing.

Hat Tip Theo Spark


© Mack (RG) The thoughts of a Falklands War Veteran.

6 comments:

  1. I'm in the green jackets or The Rifles as we are now called and I think your comments about Deb are unfair. I used to be a man called Brian but I am now called Julie but I payed for my own sex change. I served in Iraq last year as a women. I must say though that my feet were blistered after a long patrol in my high heels. That said I enjoyed the woolf whistles of those nice tanned Iraqi men.My advice to Deb is watch your nails love I kept breaking mine while trying to put a fresh mag on my LSW Once a Riflewomen always a riflewomen

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  2. I'm with you Rogue.

    Why oh why is Penny's issue my problem?

    If you want to surgery love, knock yourself out- but why are we expected to shell out?

    It's a joke, Rogue and you and I and everyone who'se ever served are the punch line.

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  3. When I was in Thailand in November having my own surgery, there was a woman there paying her own way. She's in Sigs. Total cost about 10,000 pounds. Either the MOD is being ripped off, or someone's telling porkies to make life even more difficult for Deb.

    The military is a concentrator for TS people. We're good at the military art, and quite frankly, being in the wrong gendered body is such an apalling, embarressing, and awful condition that bomb disposal or charging machine gun nests look like good ways of having a meaningful death rather than wasting one's life.

    Rogue, 1 in 10,000 guys like you end up with female bodies. Think you could have lived as a pseudo Butch Dyke - a guy without a dick? Or would you have been one of the 50% who kill themselves before age 50? Maybe you would have had the intestinal fortitude to get a hysterectomy and double mastectomy, and taken the world's scorn to be the man you are. Maybe.

    Transitioning requires courage beyond anything you've known. But I don't blame you for your views. It's only been in the last 10 years that we've found out that it's a congenital condition, like other forms of Intersex.

    Zhou J.-N, Hofman M.A, Gooren L.J, Swaab D.F (1997)
    A Sex Difference in the Human Brain and its Relation to Transsexuality.

    See also
    Kruijver F.P.M, Zhou J.-N, Pool C.W., Swaab D.F. (2000)
    Male-to-Female Transsexuals Have Female Neuron Numbers in a Limbic Nucleus

    Deb was born with a feminised brain, and a female mind. You have NO idea how much having the body of a rugby player sucks for a woman in that situation. I do, I was in the same position. 2nd row forward, actually.

    I'm Deb's age. We usually crack at around age 45-50, that's when the problems of f-pattern cellular receptors and an m-pattern hormone mix get too much to bear and stay sane. It's transition (and get put on NotW), or die.

    A lot choose to die, that's the easy way out. Would you have chosen it?

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  4. Zoe,

    Thanks for not blaming RG for his views, but how do you know what they are?

    He merely expressed outrage that 'we' taxpayers are paying for this from money which should be going towards funding the military, including the provision of medical services to British troops injured in the line of duty.

    That's just wrong, whatever the pros and cons of transexuality.

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  5. Andrewm,

    Would it be right to pay for plastic surgery to restore genital function to a squaddie injured in action? I think no-one could reasonably object.

    How about if they had the same injury in a car accident? I think part of the deal when joining up is that you're covered at least as well as if you were a civvie reliant on the NHS. So yes in that case too.

    What about if the condition is congenital? Again, treatment should be no worse for serving personnel than for civvies.

    The solution is not to stop paying for heart surgery and similar procedures where the patient's life is in danger, but to adequately fund medical care for all service personnel.

    The mortality rate or people who need the surgery and don't get it exceeds 50%, and the surgical success rate is 80-97%, depending on how good the surgeon is.

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  6. Zoe,

    Would it be right to pay for plastic surgery to restore genital function to a squaddie injured in action?

    Yes.

    How about if they had the same injury in a car accident?

    If the injury was suffered as a result of performing their duty, yes. If it was suffered as a result of anything else, then the default should be to go the NHS route, where available. It's good enough for you and me.

    What about if the condition is congenital?

    Why are we letting people join the services who require plastic surgery to restore genital function (or whatever else it is we're talking about)? Surely recruits sign forms on entry to the effect that they are not suffering from some traumatic condition. The company I work for would understandably be reluctant to employ someone that we expected to take months of sick leave and be severely emotionally distressed. The Services should be the same.

    Incidentally I don't share your simplistic view of the nature vs nurture debate. I realise you have got 'odd hormones' (your words I believe) but we don't know about Deb. It might well be that gender dysphoria is not a symptom but his underlying condition. Either way, I don't believe that the MOD should be funding Deb's treatment. He/she should be discharged from the services, in my view. Use the NHS like I would have to.

    I take your point that TS people have very real issues (the mortality rate for people who need the surgery and don't get it exceeds 50%*) and for this reason I don't want them anywhere near live ammo.

    Anyway, let's agree to disagree. Good luck and nice website by the way.

    * Presumably that is within some fairly short timeframe. We all die some time.

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